{"id":4858,"date":"2023-11-03T03:29:19","date_gmt":"2023-11-03T03:29:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cloud9accountingteam.co.uk\/?p=4858"},"modified":"2023-11-03T03:29:31","modified_gmt":"2023-11-03T03:29:31","slug":"vat-exceeding-threshold-temporarily-what-can-be-done","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cloud9accountingteam.co.uk\/sk\/vat-exceeding-threshold-temporarily-what-can-be-done\/","title":{"rendered":"VAT \u2013 Exceeding Threshold Temporarily \u2013 What Can Be Done?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Most business owners know that VAT registration is a legal requirement should total taxable turnover for the previous 12 months exceed \u00a385,000 or turnover is expected to exceed \u00a385,000 in the next 30 days.<\/p>\n<p>Once a business becomes liable, that liability ceases should HMRC be satisfied that the business is not expected to exceed the deregistration limit in the following 12 months. This limit is usually set at \u00a32,000 below the registration limit <strong>\u2013<\/strong> currently \u00a383,000 until at least April 2026.<\/p>\n<p>So far so good, but what is the situation where, for example, a business has a one-off client and that income takes the business over the VAT registration threshold but this is unlikely to occur again, at least not in the foreseeable future? In this case the business is still obliged to notify HMRC that the threshold has been exceeded but at the same time can apply for exception from registration, providing evidence that the expected turnover in the next 12 months is estimated to be below \u00a383,000.<\/p>\n<p>The recommendation to date has been to complete a paper registration Form VAT1 and at the same time write to HMRC asking for exception as this will give HMRC complete information about the firm\u2019s business and trading circumstances. However, as from 13 November 2023 HMRC will remove the ability of taxpayers to submit a paper VAT registration form requiring online registration only (unless the individual is digitally excluded or unable to utilise online services). The concern must be that the link between the digital online registration and the paper application for exception will be missed.<\/p>\n<p>However, HMRC\u2019s registration manual confirms that &#8216;<em>In cases where exception is being applied for, the applicant will not necessarily be liable to register\u2026Applications may therefore be accepted in writing without an accompanying VAT1<\/em>&#8216;. If the business fails to notify and subsequently discovers they should have registered then it could be faced with paying penalties for both late registering and for not telling HMRC in the first place. The challenge is providing clear evidence as to why the threshold was temporarily exceeded and the belief that VAT registration should not be made.<\/p>\n<p>HMRC will consider the exception and write with its decision. If HMRC disagrees, VAT registration will go ahead based on the date the registration should have applied.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Late application for exception<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sometimes a firm may be unaware that they have exceeded the registration limit and it is only when pulling together the annual accounts that it is discovered that the limit has been exceeded. In such cases an exception application can still be made even though some months may have passed since the threshold was breached. This opportunity exists despite the wording of VAT Notice 700\/1, para 3.7, which states: &#8216;<em>You\u2019ve still got to tell HMRC\u2019s VAT Registration Service that you\u2019ve reached the threshold within 30 days of the end of that month&#8217;<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Justifying the exception request in these circumstances is done by using the known facts on the date the breach was made rather than based on actual turnover figures achieved since the breach. HMRC\u2019s manual states: <em>&#8216;If you receive an application for retrospective exception containing information which would have been available at that time and would have led you to grant exception from registration at the earlier date, then it would be reasonable to allow retrospection now.<\/em>&#8216; If HMRC does not agree, it will backdate the registration, applying penalties and interest as relevant.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Partner note:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>VAT Registration Manual VATREG19150<\/p>\n<p>VAT Act 1994 Schedule 1, paragraph 1(3)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5>&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/13.0.1\/svg\/2602.svg\" alt=\"\u2602\ufe0f\" \/><strong>For Help<\/strong>\u00a0with Topic above or any Accountancy help \u2013 contact us:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cloud9accountingteam.co.uk\/sk\/contact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloud 9 Accounting Team\u00a0<\/a><\/h5>\n<h5>&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/13.0.1\/svg\/2602.svg\" alt=\"\u2602\ufe0f\" \/><strong>For<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>Answer on your Question \u2013\u00a0<\/strong>submit your question and we respond asap:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/martinasujova-8e23e.gr8.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">One Off\u00a0 Question<\/a><\/h5>\n<h5>&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/13.0.1\/svg\/2602.svg\" alt=\"\u2602\ufe0f\" \/><strong>For Leads, Tax articles Copywriting \u2013<\/strong>\u00a0those who do not need accountant but need some leads, tax articles for their website\/marketing \u2013 join here and get your unique tax content (copy and paste, ask for sample today):\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cloud9clubsub.gr8.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloud 9 Club\u00a0<\/a><\/h5>\n<h5>&gt;<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/13.0.1\/svg\/2602.svg\" alt=\"\u2602\ufe0f\" \/><strong>For Self Employed<\/strong>\u00a0who don\u2019t have accountant \u2013 get regular advice:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cloud9clubsub.gr8.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloud 9 Club<\/a><\/h5>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most business owners know that VAT registration is a legal requirement should total taxable turnover for the previous 12 months exceed \u00a385,000 or turnover is expected to exceed \u00a385,000 in the next 30 days. 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